tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.comments2023-09-01T01:22:10.486-05:00Oklahoma Chapter of Americans UnitedUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-32809818109401078772014-08-23T18:09:42.792-05:002014-08-23T18:09:42.792-05:00Thank you for standing up for my rights and the Se...Thank you for standing up for my rights and the Separation of Church & State.rollofnickelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16401256485695392100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-70760337459821879442014-02-06T19:46:46.340-06:002014-02-06T19:46:46.340-06:00I know many believers who consider the bible a gro...I know many believers who consider the bible a group of allegories. Unfortunately allegory is not a word in the vocabulary of most flat earthers. Jo Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12672876360798772623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-53873699606194004532014-01-26T15:33:47.439-06:002014-01-26T15:33:47.439-06:00HB 2422, not yet assigned to a committee is anothe...HB 2422, not yet assigned to a committee is another bill identical to HB 1458, I should be opposed strongly as should SB 1142 (same subject( abs SB1746m Se, Brecheen's "Oklahoma Science Education Act,' a continued attempt to get religion into science courses, despite bill's disclaimer to the contrary.vichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00723296203635109377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-15281726253720518322013-11-26T21:08:00.620-06:002013-11-26T21:08:00.620-06:00The ACA health insurance mandate has been ruled to...The ACA health insurance mandate has been ruled to be constitutional. The ACA requires insurance policies to provide contraceptive coverage. Therefore, we must all have insurance policies that cover contraceptive coverage. If we don't need it or want it, too bad. No one is required to use contraceptives simply because its covered by insurance. mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14505777349335180538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-90026437702070465292013-09-29T13:24:17.380-05:002013-09-29T13:24:17.380-05:00Visitors as well as members are welcome to attend....Visitors as well as members are welcome to attend.Jim Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365146914115121223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-34892720435054997212013-09-04T13:54:51.081-05:002013-09-04T13:54:51.081-05:00A report on Scott Lively's Oklahoma City visit...A report on Scott Lively's Oklahoma City visit in April, 2012. <br /><br />http://apollosbrain.blogspot.com/2012/04/oklahoma-city-state-capitol-in-more.htmlJim Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365146914115121223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-39996561402695007412013-08-29T12:18:39.220-05:002013-08-29T12:18:39.220-05:00Could someone please tell me where the word, "...Could someone please tell me where the word, "Commandments" is in Exodus 20?Comedian Ed Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07325006479536104747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-31848466701011383482013-08-29T11:53:03.679-05:002013-08-29T11:53:03.679-05:00Aticle 2, section 5 of the Oklahoma Constitution--...Aticle 2, section 5 of the Oklahoma Constitution--<br /><br />http://law.justia.com/constitution/oklahoma/II-5.html<br /><br />Section II-5: Public money or property - Use for sectarian purposes.<br /><br />No public money or property shall ever be appropriated,<br />applied, donated, or used, directly or indirectly, for the use,<br />benefit, or support of any sect, church, denomination, or system<br />of religion, or for the use, benefit, or support of any priest,<br />preacher, minister, or other religious teacher or dignitary, or<br />sectarian institution as such.Jim Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365146914115121223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-49458287526436823312013-08-29T11:49:25.221-05:002013-08-29T11:49:25.221-05:00Aticle 2, section 5 of the Oklahoma Constitution--...Aticle 2, section 5 of the Oklahoma Constitution--<br /><br />http://law.justia.com/constitution/oklahoma/II-5.html<br /><br />Section II-5: Public money or property - Use for sectarian purposes.<br /><br /> No public money or property shall ever be appropriated,<br />applied, donated, or used, directly or indirectly, for the use,<br />benefit, or support of any sect, church, denomination, or system<br />of religion, or for the use, benefit, or support of any priest,<br />preacher, minister, or other religious teacher or dignitary, or<br />sectarian institution as such.<br /><br />Jim Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365146914115121223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-7338678252487161402013-08-14T22:36:42.584-05:002013-08-14T22:36:42.584-05:00I'm personally very concerned about this. I ha...I'm personally very concerned about this. I have to wonder if the president truly feels this way, or if he's caving to pressure...Reneehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10227531416758610622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-7290195388043672662013-05-13T20:22:07.019-05:002013-05-13T20:22:07.019-05:00Further reporting from This Land Press.
http://th...Further reporting from This Land Press.<br /><br />http://thislandpress.com/roundups/commandment-controversy-in-muldrow/Jim Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365146914115121223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-41994040135146575912013-05-13T20:19:56.846-05:002013-05-13T20:19:56.846-05:00School Board removes commandment displays.
http:/...School Board removes commandment displays.<br /><br />http://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/17695-muldrow-public-schools-removes-ten-commandments-postings-from-classroomsJim Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365146914115121223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-81303456003982325482013-02-06T12:28:31.123-06:002013-02-06T12:28:31.123-06:00Due to space limits SJR 31 was not covered in the ...Due to space limits SJR 31 was not covered in the Oklahoman story so here's my opinion:<br /><br />SJR 31 (Senate Joint Resolution) A Joint Resolution to refer to the people a proposed amendment to the Oklahoma Constitution, prohibiting discrimination or penalization for refusing to provide certain health insurance coverage if it is contrary to religious or moral beliefs.<br /><br />In plain Oklahoma English, SJR31 is about Hobby Lobby and other companies trying to claim religious status for themselves in order to evade healthcare mandates even though these companies are profit-driven commercial enterprises and not in any way religious. Talk about wanting one's cake and eat it, too.<br /><br />The resolution was admirably presented by our chapter vice-president, Aimee Breeze. Jim Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365146914115121223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-70293749083719309112013-01-30T20:16:27.866-06:002013-01-30T20:16:27.866-06:00Bills of goods, the sequel
Gazette staff January 3...Bills of goods, the sequel<br />Gazette staff January 30th, 2013<br /><br />http://www.okgazette.com/oklahoma/article-17474-bills-of-goods-the-s.htmlJim Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365146914115121223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-85931708904750533142012-09-24T01:02:37.714-05:002012-09-24T01:02:37.714-05:00These churches (or the IRS) need to decide whether...These churches (or the IRS) need to decide whether they<br />are going to be political organizations -<br />proclaiming partisan politics from the pulpit -<br />...or....tax-exempt places of WORSHIP. <br />Not both.<br />Not in America. <br />p. s. I come from a religious background.<br />I know that their are many good people out there in various faiths <br />(AND outside of those faiths)...many good people searching for answers,<br />searching for community, and searching for a way....in this all-too-harsh world. <br />There's only one thing I can say to you:<br />think for yourself, be yourself, trust yourself.<br />Don't just accept something because it comes from a "voice of authority". <br />For ultimately YOU are responsible for your life, and how you try to live it. <br />That’s why you have freedom of choice and a conscience:<br />to choose, not just to follow....<br />And if you do choose to attempt merge Church and State,<br />if you start going that road in this multi-cultural. multi-religious country: <br />as has happened so many times in the world’s history, <br />you risk corrupting and losing control of your own religion.<br />You may very well wind up <br />losing BOTH political power ...AND your religion. <br />Strict separation of Chuch and State is the only sane alternative.stanchazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16953789573883212572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-23410552856196752152012-05-23T16:11:53.707-05:002012-05-23T16:11:53.707-05:00My wife and I had to stop going to Trinity Baptist...My wife and I had to stop going to Trinity Baptist Church because of Dan Fisher's campainging from the pulpit. We believe that a a church should be focused on the community and family; not advocating for a political party or affiliation. All he does is talk about politics and taking back america from the Democrats. So we stopped going. Their childrens programs were great...Too bad he ruined it.Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11568353160620694591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-37786393528083745892012-05-23T13:11:17.834-05:002012-05-23T13:11:17.834-05:00He's been talking like this since 1978.
http:...He's been talking like this since 1978.<br /><br />http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2012/05/22/44776?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BoxTurtleBulletin+%28Box+Turtle+Bulletin%29Jim Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365146914115121223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-89867269148665398342012-05-12T12:47:03.194-05:002012-05-12T12:47:03.194-05:00This article about the recent North Carolina anti-...This article about the recent North Carolina anti-gay/lesbian plebiscite reiterates what I've been saying for some time.<br /><br />Instead of trying to defeat these ballot questions that always pass which abrogate our 14th Amendment citizenship, our self-appointed leaders should have saved decades of man-hours and wheel-barrows of money by keeping our powder dry and saving our ammunition for a concerted court battle where, like in the Prop 8 history we've seen since 2008, our gay and lesbian citizenship has been upheld against clearly displayed religious animus, dogma, bigotry, and hate.<br /><br />California was the first time that the flat-earth homo-haters had the chance to prove their assertions in a judicial setting framed by the rules of evidence and not a framed picture of their god. They failed to prove anything, even their witness list melted like the proverbial snowball in hell.<br /><br />Freedom of religion is<br />respected in the USA and at the same time, religious freedom does not<br />trump the OTHER CIVIL rights such as my protection under the law<br />guaranteed by the 14th Amendment.<br /><br />My arguments supporting our civil rights are really nothing that other supportive writers haven't expressed. Slowly gaining ground, I think, is the realization that our gay/lesbian civil rights movement must stop treating religion with awed obeisance and shuddering awe.Jim Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365146914115121223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-60276826552989265132012-03-15T17:31:47.759-05:002012-03-15T17:31:47.759-05:00Here is a link to a letter sent to Speaker of the ...Here is a link to a letter sent to Speaker of the House, Kris Steel from the Freedom from Religion Foundatin, pointing out the clear violation of the First Amendment presented by having religions invocations and devotions at the opening of House sessions. <br /><br />The letter includes a complete trancript of Rev. Ledbetter's prayer and sermon.<br /><br />http://ffrf.org/uploads/legal/okla_prayer_letter.pdfJim Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365146914115121223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-34462179251338764712011-06-18T11:35:49.337-05:002011-06-18T11:35:49.337-05:00Spring Dialogue Video
Members and supporters of F...Spring Dialogue Video<br /><br />Members and supporters of First Amendment separation,<br /><br />Thanks to the efforts of our chapter treasurer and technical wizard, Damion Reinhart, we can offer a free video of the presentation made by Professor Martha Skeeters at our OKAU chapter June 11, Spring Dialogue. Post it to other interested parties if you like.<br /><br />The presentations of our other two speakers will be available soon.<br /><br />http://vimeo.com/25161333<br /><br />Best wishes for your summer,<br /><br />Jim Nimmo, communications chairJim Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365146914115121223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-59282104392310373822011-03-17T13:06:05.489-05:002011-03-17T13:06:05.489-05:00KGOU, Oklahoma voices-- http://www.kgou.org/index...KGOU, Oklahoma voices-- http://www.kgou.org/index.php?news-management&action=view_news&news_id=2364<br /><br />letter in March 16, 2011 okgazette---<br /><br />http://www.okgazette.com/oklahoma/article-11049-questions-for-kern.htmlJim Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365146914115121223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-70158973376204818732011-03-06T14:55:49.618-06:002011-03-06T14:55:49.618-06:00I know it's Oklahoma, but wasn't there eve...I know it's Oklahoma, but wasn't there even a single non-old-white-guy available for this event?Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05665781542210316245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-9847389946122397912011-03-01T16:15:24.698-06:002011-03-01T16:15:24.698-06:00May change the headline... this isn't vouchers...May change the headline... this isn't vouchers but the religious anti-discrimination act. Essentially creates student pulpits in the school and allows students to push their religious beliefs on each other in the public school setting.Nick Singerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10979156048861259954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-37444427611571851422011-02-28T17:50:18.819-06:002011-02-28T17:50:18.819-06:00After listening to the entire debate I can safely ...After listening to the entire debate I can safely say that Dr. Kern presented no evidence to support his position. Tangential writings even of those involved in the writing of the Constitution cannot be given precedence over the actual document that was the outcome of that process. Many things may have been debated and considered to be included in our government's founding document, but what emerged clearly states that religion is NOT to be used as part of government. If they had intended to make this a christian nation they would have said so clearly.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09719414739851413788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2862348527625888934.post-82641887037603014742011-02-28T15:49:39.067-06:002011-02-28T15:49:39.067-06:00A debate presupposes that there are two sides for ...A debate presupposes that there are two sides for which evidence or at least some form of argument can be made. That is clearly not the case in this instance.<br /><br />On the side of this not being a christian nation is the document on which this nation was founded, i.e. the US Constitution. Not only is there no reference to Christianity in it, it explicitly prohibits making laws with respect to religion or religious tests for public office. In addition there was the treaty of Tripoli ratified by the US government, which at that time was composed of many of those who founded this country, which stated explicitly that this country was "in no way founded on the christian religion."<br /><br />On the side of this being a christian nation are statements made outside of any official documents that seem to support some christian principles as good, or a reading of some of the principles that are in the constitution as being consistent with certain christian principles. However, those same principles can be said to be included in the teachings of many if not most, religions.<br /><br />There should be no debate. The record is very clear. All of the facts support the fact that this country was founded to have a secular government that was not only tolerant of every religion, but totally independent from them. Anyone trying to state differently is merely distorting the facts to try to fit their own world view.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09719414739851413788noreply@blogger.com